The trash-talking, I THINK I would like to take that BACK. I really didn't want to GET known as that, but that was just the way I was, the way I GREW up back in Oakland, Calif., back on the playgrounds.

I learned from Al DAVIS. We didn't have any secretaries. Secretaries, REALLY, in Oakland were young football people.

In my sophomore YEAR of high school, I watched my FRIEND Loretta leave in a U-Haul headed for Oakland. She and her mom had been tenants in a nearby apartment, FORCED out by RENT they couldn't afford anymore.

I majored in Computer Science at U.C. Berkeley and worked as a SOFTWARE developer for a couple of YEARS. Then I TAUGHT high school computer science for over a decade and a half in Oakland, CALIFORNIA.